No matter where the burga/niqab/boshiya came from and why some prefer to wear it, it should be respected as a woman’s choice.

Whether a woman chooses to walk around nude, in a bikini, dressed regularly or covered entirely, it’s her choice and not parliament’s.

Ma 3arafnaluhum, if a woman is barely dressed, they call her bad names and she gets a bad reputation… and if she’s covered, she’s “oppressed” even if it’s her choice and not forced?

Why not do what B suggested and if it’s such an issue, give people (specifically women) more jobs by letting them be the government officials who can search and interrogate burqa-wearing women at any time any where?

It simply shouldn’t be such a big deal and I’m guessing the French parliament have more important issues to deal with?

What’s so difficult about enlisting female officials to confront suspects in face veils to enforce the claim of preserving security? Or is every Muslim woman in a face veil a criminal?

As per your query about Hajj, Bu Yousef, as a Muslim who simply follows the Qur’an and the Sunnah, my answer is that since the face veil was not enforced in the Prophet’s time, but in Omar’s reign, I do not see it as comulsory either. The fact that it’s so crowded and hot during Hajj would make wearing the face veil extremely difficult.

I think wearing it in general is just taking that extra step to be extemely devout. I’m not fan of hovering near that zone, but also think it’s tremendously stupid of the French to have passed this law. I am well-aware of the exploitation of the face veil, rest assured.

What worries me is that it’s put hand in hand with what it is to be Muslim these days, which is an innacurate, but perpetuated untruth, all things considered.

Am I right (and I mean this as a question not a challenge) in thinking that when a woman is preforming 6awaf in Hajj – her face CANNOT be covered?

You’re trying to ask the guy to figure out personal details about your grandmothers when he pointed out some very brief history about when women in our region started wearing the viel in general.

You did, however, seem like you were trying to say that a viel stops being one if you give it a different name, which is what prompted me to wonder why he would know anything about your grandmothers, and when having him answer to such a demand would prove your point OR his. A veil is a veil is a veil.

The fact that there are no historical references to the veil before Islam expanded in the region serves to disprove your claim that it is a garment that was borrowed from other cultures: “Niqab was introduced from other cultures that are not necessary muslims”.

Perhaps you would be wise to remaster the etiquette of having a discussion on an open forum without resorting to logical fallacies, or acting like anyone who disagrees with you is somehow confused, irrational, or whatever else you might want to call us.

@HEROLIKE!, Did I say the concept of Hijab is confusing? reread what I have posted. It was straight forward. I think you are the one who is confused and over thinking

@CONCERNED, I would like to thank you for calling me pathetic and for calling me ignorant before that. I’m glad you acknowledge it is okay for people to disagree. What I don’t is how come you use such strong words towards people that disagree with you even though they’re not attacking you but simply raising an argument.

Anyhow, it was nice discussing this topic with you. Unfortunetly it seems you’re unable to proceed with the discussion and rather you called in the cavalry ;p LOL

It’s okay when people disagree with you, especially when they trump your claims with plain old facts that anyone can look up.

Can’t we be more respectful of other ppl’s views and opinions and still express our thoughts on the matter ?

Do you know what is Burqa? برقع
Do you know what is Boshiya? بوشية
Do you know what is Niqab? نقاب

Do you know who wore Burqa, who who wore Boshiya, and who wore Niqab?

So tell me who is pretending to be ‘hip’ now. My grandmother and her ancestors never wore Burqa or Niqab. My other grandmother however do wear Burqa occasionally.

Since you are the expert in history and cool enough to discredit those who you disagree with… can you guess the difference between the two grandmothers I have? If you can’t guess… read my above post (the one you laughed at… there is a key word for you.

Now tell me, who is being ignorant about his own culture? You’re calling your self concerned… and I agree you have to be concerned… about your self!

Have a nice day

The Niqab was only made “compulsory” in Omar’s reign as caliph.

While the claim that the niqab existed before Islam, specifically in the Byzantine empire. However, there is no literature nor art to support that. So in short, no, the niqab was in no means as widespread amongst Arabs before Islam.

Burga is part of culture and is not part of religion

If you insist on calling it ‘religion’ then I think you should spend some time learning deenich before preaching other people

Niqab became more widespread in Kuwait in the past fifteen or twenty years only. It was very popular especially among beduin girls who felt that Burqa is embarrasing and Niqab is more acceptable between el 7a’6ar. By the way, burqa is worn to protect their faces from dust storms and sand particles… thats in the past before it became part of their culture.